Sunday, September 14, 2008

Destined to Reign by Joseph Prince


Blogpastor's post of Gordon Wong's review of this book. Read the lively comments on his post. Gordon Wong is an Old Testament lecturer with Trinity Theological College in Singapore. Joseph Prince is senior pastor of New Creation Church in Singapore.

ROOTSS which means "Reflections of One That Says So" posted the review and added a 5 parts additional comments: part 1; part 2,part 3, part 4 and part 5 and even one from his nephew (Gordon's that is, not Joseph's).



my copy is autographed by the man himself.

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16 Comments:

Blogger Steven Sim said...

nice little quote...but why the sudden obsession with JP I wonder? :D

Steven Sim

8:35 PM  
Blogger Alex Tang said...

hi Steven,

not an obsession, just curiosity

8:44 PM  
Blogger Blogpastor.net said...

Doc, could you give us a diagnosis of his theology of grace?

10:05 AM  
Blogger Alex Tang said...

hi blogspastor, before diagnosis, need investigation and examination :)

1:15 PM  
Blogger Jason said...

I thought the review by Gordon Wong was very good and gracious. I wonder why there are 5 parts of response from ROOTSS. (i've read it and still don't understand - it looks more like 'attacking' Gordon's supposedly-methodism view than talking about the review itself)

4:06 AM  
Blogger Alex Tang said...

Hi Steven, Jason and Blogpastor,

I am very curious. So I am watching, examining, investigating and studying. Not so much on his theology of "Grace" (note capitalisation) but on the incredible effect he has on some people. And also on the almost fanatical devotion of his followers.

11:16 AM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

If you know the Truth, it's not crazy following Pastor Prince. It running after Jesus. The beauty of Lord Jesus being revealed by Pastor Prince.

1:34 AM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Maybe you could check out my blog too. Haha, I am the "almost fanatical devotion of his follower" not because of him though, but because of Lord Jesus.

1:46 AM  
Blogger Alex Tang said...

hi Stephanie,

Welcome. I will certainly check out your blog. I am glad to meet another follower of Jesus.

1:59 AM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

The thing that attracts me to Lord Jesus is, when we know all our sins, past, present and future was forgiven by Lord Jesus on the cross and Daddy God does not impute any sin on us anymore, whatever the imperfection in our life, by the Grace of Lord Jesus, He filled us up and make us full.

On areas that are bad, like human proud, Lord leads me through situation that this pride diminished into thin air. All by the Grace of Jesus.

Praise the Lord! Lord Jesus came to fulfill the 10 commandments. It was nailed to His palms on the Cross. He is the mercy seat, the top part of the Holy of Holy. Human pride, in term of the budded rod of Aaron, human complains, in term of the Manna, and the 2 tablets of the Law were in the Holy of Holy, below the mercy seat.

Lord Jesus and His Grace is greater than the Law. Lord Jesus on the cross absorbed all our human sins, curses and stink of death. He was still alive after judgment. It was after His dismissal of His spirit that He finally gone.

So, law is fulfilled by Lord Jesus, there is nothing more for us to fulfill. Our only work is to believe. That's what Lord told me before I accepted Christ.

Praise the Lord Jesus for loving us so much and loving His Father, Daddy God so much that He obeyed His Will and died for me.

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

2:43 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Hi Brother-in-Christ,

Just now in shower, Lord revealed more about His Grace for me to share with you. This is regards to the remark by Gordon Wong about his reservation for those very bad people on receiving Grace and knowing that all their sins are forgiven.

Last year, Kenneth Coperland shared in a sermon about an encounter with a rapist on the run. This guy, lets name him R, and raped and killed 9 girls in USA. He had just run away from the police and encountered his 10th girl. This lady was from Kenneth Coperland ministry.

Lord lead her to share with R about Jesus love him. When R got so frustrated over her sharing, she played KCM sermon instead.

Lord disclosed that he has a 5 yr old son. Lord thru her told him that there was police blockage right where they were traveling to. He was doubtful but when he saw the police way ahead, he let this lady thru Christ, lead him out.

He accepted Christ and decided to surrender to the police and wanted to meet Kenneth Coperland.

KC went to met him and R even showed KC that he had the key to get out. Lord impressed KC to tell him that before he did anything, he was to pray to Jesus first.

That night, R waited for night fall. He then prepared to jump jail. As he was about to run, he recalled his promise to KC to pray to Jesus first.

As he kneel to pray, Lord by His Grace, freezed him in that position the whole night thru. When he open his eyes, it was daylight and he could not run anymore.

What he found out was that his prison door was not locked and police had actually stationed outside his prison, getting ready to shoot him.

He met with KC a couple of time. When he was scheduled to die by electric chair, before the sentence, he told the audience that no matter what he do, he could not repay what he had done to their daughters. Lord lead him to repentance. Praise the Lord!

In my church, there are testimony of gangster head, did all the bad, got jailed, then learn about Jesus and was led by Lord to NCC. Thru realising Jesus loves him very much, Lord thru His Grace removed all his sins. Years of drinking, smoking etc. He is now in university and finally has good relationship with his aged parents. Lord amended relationships when you trust in Him. He is now going to boys home to share the gospel about Jesus love them. The boys wants to be like him too.

Bible said that when sin abounce Grace super abounce.

Look at the rapist and this gangster head, no amount of Law could get them to become good. But with the Grace of Jesus, Lord enabled them to be good.

This is why many of us queued up weekly at NCC, we are hungry for the message of Grace. What Lord had done for us. Who we are as a child of God, what is our rights as a child of God.

When we know Jesus, by beholding Him, He the Greater One enable us to walk a holy life. This is what 10 commandments failed with the children of Israel for 1500 years.

Law would only raise the sinful nature in human. If there is a door with a label, don't enter. How many of you would want to open that door to see what's inside?

Daddy God gave us the 10 commandments years ago to let us know that we cannot reach His mark. We could only trust on Lord Jesus to lead us there. In this new covenant, Lord promised to write the law in our heart and lead us from within. This is why thru beholding Jesus, learn more and more about Him, Lord will transform us to be like Him.

If you read my blog from start to current, you will see how Lord leads me from glory to glory. I am a New Creation in Him. I am not what I was 2 years ago. Lord has changed me greatly in this 2 years.

Such a wonderful Saviour, how would I not go for Him?

Hope this sharing will open your eyes as to why so many people here in Singapore and around the world is so keen on what Lord disclose thru Pastor Prince about the Grace of Jesus. This is a end time revelation.

Hope you will not like the Pharisees in the bible. They know so much about the bible and yet, when the Great Saviour was in front of them, they have no clue. There were churches around when Jesus was born, yet none of them know about His existence.

This is the Benjamin Generation. Lord thru Pastor Prince 2002 sermon and last Sunday sermon, let me to realise this is the end time movement. Come close to Jesus and let him lead you.

Shalom!

12:08 AM  
Blogger Alex Tang said...

Hi Stephanie,

Thank you for sharing your belief and what you have learned and experienced. It is an eye-opener in some of the things you have shared.

I have also enjoyed some of the things you have shared in your blog.

Shalom to you too

12:33 AM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Welcome. :D

It was Lord who led me here. Praise the Lord!

3:40 PM  
Blogger Sze Zeng said...

Hi Alex,

That's a passionate curiosity! :)

I'm currently trying to give a brief yet critical review on the book. Currently only half-way through the chapter 1.

I've done the Preface though. Share with you here. Pls comment if u deem fit.

http://szezeng.blogspot.com/2008/10/deeper-look-at-joseph-princes-destined.html

6:25 PM  
Blogger pearlie said...

Have you read it already? What's your take on it?

11:22 PM  
Blogger Alex Tang said...

hi Pearlie,

Yes, I have read it. Still trying to digest and understand it :)

8:33 AM  

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